Venue: Meeting Room 2 - Level 3, Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham ME4 4TR
Contact: Rosie Gunstone, Democratic Services Officer
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To approve the record of the meeting held on 24 June 2014. Minutes: The record of the meeting held on 24 June 2014 was agreed as correct and signed by the Chairman. |
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Apologies for absence Minutes: Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Maisey and Kearney and Dr Ussher and Priti Joshi. |
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Urgent matters by reason of special circumstances The Chairman will announce any late items which do not appear on the main agenda but which he/she has agreed should be considered by reason of special circumstances to be specified in the report. Minutes: There were no urgent matters. The Chairman took the opportunity of welcoming Councillor Gilry to her first meeting of the Committee. He also requested the Committee’s approval to moving the agenda item on South East Coast Ambulance Trust – Emergency Operations Centres to follow the attendance of the Portfolio Holder for Adult Services. |
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Declarations of interests and whipping (A) Disclosable pecuniary interests and other interests
A member need only disclose at any meeting the existence of a disclosable pecuniary interest (DPI) in a matter to be considered at that meeting if that DPI has not been entered on the disclosable pecuniary interests register maintained by the Monitoring Officer.
A member disclosing a DPI at a meeting must thereafter notify the Monitoring Officer in writing of that interest within 28 days from the date of disclosure at the meeting.
A member may not participate in a discussion of or vote on any matter in which he or she has a DPI (both those already registered and those disclosed at the meeting) and must withdraw from the room during such discussion/vote.
Members may choose to voluntarily disclose a DPI at a meeting even if it is registered on the council’s register of disclosable pecuniary interests but there is no legal requirement to do so.
Members should also ensure they disclose any other interests which may give rise to a conflict under the council’s code of conduct.
In line with the training provided to members by the Monitoring Officer members will also need to consider bias and pre-determination in certain circumstances and whether they have a conflict of interest or should otherwise leave the room for Code reasons.
(B) Whipping
The Council’s constitution also requires any Member of the Committee who is subject to a party whip (ie agreeing to vote in line with the majority view of a private party group meeting) to declare the existence of the whip. Minutes: Disclosable pecuniary interests
There were none.
Other interests
Councillor Etheridge declared a non-pecuniary interest in any item relating to mental health in relation to her role as a carer for her son. |
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Attendance of Portfolio Holder for Adult Services PDF 102 KB This report details the areas covered by the Portfolio Holder for Adult Services. The areas within the portfolio are listed each time a Cabinet Member is invited to attend any of the Overview and Scrutiny Committees to be held to account. Minutes: Discussion:
The Portfolio Holder for Adult Services responded to Members’ questions on the following:
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South East Coast Ambulance Trust - Emergency Operation Centres - engagement PDF 46 KB This report relates to information on proposals for reconfiguration of Emergency Operation Centres. Additional documents: Minutes: Discussion:
The Director of Commercial Services, South East Coast Ambulance NHS Foundation Trust gave a powerpoint presentation setting out proposed reconfiguration of the Emergency Operations Centres. He set out the reasoning behind the changes and emphasised that this was not as a result of a need to save money or reduce staffing, in fact further recruitment of staff would take place. Demand for the service was likely to increase by around 5% each year. The existing centres are in Coxheath, Lewes and Banstead.
Staff of the ambulance trust had been consulted about the proposals and the preference was for there to be two sites, possibly one in Kent or Medway and the other likely to be in North Sussex. He explained the benefits and resilience of there being two Emergency Operations Centres particularly around being a Category 1 responder under the Civil Contingency Act.
One of the things being considered, following initial discussions with staff, was the possibility of virtual working, which would allow staff to work from home.
In response to Member questions he stated the following:
Members then expressed grave concerns about the suggestion of calls being dealt with by means of home working, around the security, confidentiality and lack of appropriate support for the call taker themselves and lack of clinical advice. The view was put forward that should these plans proceed Members would be minded to consider the proposals as being a substantial variation of a service. The Director of Commercial Services undertook to feed the Committee’s views into the next stage of the consultation.
Decision:
The report was noted and the Director of Commercial Services requested to feed back the Committee’s views set out above, into the process and report back on progress. |
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Consultation on changes to dermatology services PDF 73 KB This report advises the Committee of a proposal under consideration by NHS Medway CCG to reconfigure/recommission dermatology services. In the view of NHS Medway CCG this is not a substantial service reconfiguration. Additional documents: Minutes: Discussion:
The NHS Medway Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) Commissioning Programme Manager introduced the report giving details of a proposal to reconfigure/recommission dermatology services in Medway.
She explained that services will continue to be provided under the NHS standard contract offering choice of provider to Medway patients, but the intention was to enable a larger proportion of work to be undertaken outside of an acute hospital setting. In response to Member questions she, and the Chief Clinical Officer, NHS Medway CCG, explained the following:
Decision:
The Committee concluded that the proposals did not constitute a substantial variation or development of service. |
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Acute mental health inpatient bed update PDF 46 KB The report sets out the response from Kent and Medway NHS Social Care Partnership Trust and NHS Medway CCG in respect of the request at the last meeting for regular updates on the position with the acute mental health inpatient beds review. Additional documents:
Minutes: Discussion:
The Chief Executive and the Director of Operations, Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust (KMPT) introduced the update report. The Chief Executive stated that in relation to data requested from the last meeting any outstanding information would be circulated to the Democratic Services Officer within 24 hours of the meeting.
The Chief Executive pointed out the improvements that were taking place in the community in particular with the Personality Disorder unit in Gillingham, which was proving to be very successful, and avoiding the need for those people to be admitted into an acute setting. She undertook to share outcomes with the Committee. Reference was also made to the work, which KMPT had done since the last meeting with Public Health and some Members in order to produce data, which would be helpful for the Committee.
Following Member questions it was stated:
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Communities of Excellence - Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust PDF 52 KB This report sets out KMPT plans to bring together its expertise into three clinical communities, which will deliver demonstrable clinical excellence across the range of services provided. Each of their three Communities of Excellence will be underpinned by a “Hub and Spoke” model of care which will allow us to deliver specialist inpatient care to those service users who need high intensity support from three main locations – Dartford, Maidstone and Canterbury. Additional documents:
Minutes: Discussion:
The Chief Executive of KMPT offered to take questions from Members at the meeting or by individual comments on the website.
In view of the lateness of the hour Members decided to defer consideration of this item and the next item on the agenda to outside of the meeting.
Decision:
It was agreed that a meeting should take place with the leading Members of the Committee and officers to develop a response to the two consultations from KMPT (this item and the item on People with Lived Experience). |
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People with Lived Experience - Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust PDF 57 KB The draft ‘People with Lived Experience Involvement Policy’ sets out the principles and practice for remunerating service users, carers and volunteers for their involvement in service improvement activities. KMPT wishes to seek feedback about the draft policy. Additional documents: Minutes: As with the previous item this was deferred to enable officers to meet with the leading members of the Committee to develop a response to the consultation. |
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Mental Health services in Medway Task Group - review of recommendations PDF 127 KB This is an information report providing an update to Overview and Scrutiny Committee members about progress made in implementing the recommendations made in the report on the Review of Mental Health Services in Medway, undertaken by the Councillor Scrutiny Task Group during June-September 2013, and approved by Cabinet on 14 January 2014. Minutes: Discussion:
The Deputy Director, Children and Adults gave a brief introduction to the review of the Review of Mental Health Services task group recommendations and responded to Members’ questions.
Members spoke positively about the recommendations and progress so far but felt that more should be done to ensure continued funding for the Link worker, supervised by the Adult Mental Health Social Work team and embedded in Housing services beyond the agreed four months as the appointment had been very successful. It was agreed that this request should be put forward to Cabinet.
Reference was made to the need for Business Support to bear in mind the need to engage with mental health services around the move of services from Riverside one. The Democratic Services Officer was requested to bring this to the attention of the relevant officers.
Thanks were expressed for Members of the task group for their work on the review.
Decision:
It was agreed to recommend Cabinet to make provision in the budget setting process for the Link worker embedded in Housing Services to be a permanent appointment with a suggestion that a review of outcomes should be undertaken after the period of one year. |
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Update on patient transport PDF 43 KB This report sets out the response from West Kent Commissioning Group in respect of the request for an update on patient transport. Additional documents: Minutes: Discussion:
The Accountable Officer, NHS West Kent Clinical Commissioning Group introduced the patient transport update and confirmed that while there had been some improvements, overall the provider was still performing at an unacceptable level. He was, however, pleased to be able to inform the Committee that the Care Quality Commission following an inspection in March were not proposing any enforcement action.
In conjunction with all the CCGs for Kent and Medway discussion had taken place about the future for the patient transport provider and it had been agreed that the contract would not be extended beyond the three year period which is July 2016. It was stated that there were ongoing discussions with hospitals in Kent and Medway to ensure that the service fitted with their needs and requirements. Some Members put the benefit of having smaller contracts forward rather than a contract covering a large area.
In response to Members’ questions he stated that, having researched other areas of the country to find out how patient transport was being operated elsewhere, he did not feel there was merit in terminating the existing contract at this point. The Accountable Officer, NHS West Kent CCG did state that, in the event of having to take further action he would consult this Committee and the Kent Health Scrutiny Committee. He stated that preparations were, however, ongoing for the re-procurement of the service. The specification was being drafted using specialist in-house knowledge. The draft specification would be brought to this Committee in due course.
A question was asked as to whether staff working for the patient transport provider had training in health and safety, following a specific incident that was referred to at the meeting, it was stated that all staff had now received that training. An offer was made to discuss the particular case outside of the meeting.
Confirmation was given that the new contract would be sufficiently flexible to enable changes to the service to fit with patient need.
Following a suggestion at the meeting the Director of Children and Adults agreed to put the Accountable Officer, NHS West Kent Clinical Commissioning Group in touch with the Council’s provider of SEN transport, Norse, to see if any assistance could be given by them in the future.
Decision:
(a)The report was noted;
(b) Feedback to the Committee on the outcome of any discussions held with Norse was requested along with details of the full draft specification when ready. |
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Quarter 4 Performance Report PDF 201 KB This annual report provides a summary of Medway’s performance for 2013/14 against its priorities, which it set out in The Council Plan 2013/15. The following information against the relevant Council priority is provided for this committee:
Additional documents: Minutes: Discussion:
The Director of Children and Adults stated that she would welcome questions from Members and drew attention to the improved performance in the indicators relating to services for carers which put the Council in a good position to respond to the new requirements under the Care Act 2014. The Deputy Director, Children and Adults clarified the differences between the adult social care survey and the feedback received in relation to the Adults Mental Health Social Work Team which had been moved back in-house. The Committee then raised questions and discussed a number of issues including:
· General observation The comment was made that the short trends were performing better than the long trends. It was also agreed that, in view of the importance of dealing with this report more robustly the item should be placed earlier on the agenda for future meetings.
· The proportion of people with learning difficulties who use services who say that those services have made them feel safe and secure Members were disappointed that this trend was on a downward trend. The Deputy Director, Children and Adults referred to new data received which indicated an upward trend in the proportion of people who use services who say that those service have made them feel safe and secure.
· Numbers completing the MEND programme it was felt that the targets were rather modest. The Director of Public Health stated that it had proved challenging to get people to use the MEND programme but the Change4Life programme had proved a more flexible way of helping people with losing weight and living more healthily. She did acknowledge that more needed to be done.
· Rate of self-reported 4 week smoking quitters aged 16 or over it was disappointing to see the trend down and a question was asked as to whether this was affected by use of e-cigarettes. The Director of Public Health stated that the downward trend was reflected in results nationally but highlighted that Medway was 13th in the country in getting people to commence the smoking cessation programme and 40th out of 152 as far as the quitting rate was concerned.
· Number of adults taking part in healthy weight and exercise referral interventions Questions were asked as to what more could be done to encourage people to take part in these interventions. The Director of Public Health confirmed that it was often difficult for GPs to raise the issue of obesity with their patients. The Chief Clinical Officer, NHS Medway CCG referred to ongoing improvements in primary care which meant it would be easier for data to be collected and used by GPs to address obesity issues with patients.
· Support for victims of domestic abuse a Member at the meeting commended this support.
· Support for carers Further detail was given by the Deputy Director, Children and Adults about the types of support that carers requested which were often very modest and related to support with housework, gardening etc.
· Better for less In response to a question ... view the full minutes text for item 237. |
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This item advises Members of the current work programme and allows the Committee to adjust it in the light of latest priorities, issues and circumstances. It gives Members the opportunity to shape and direct the Committee’s activities over the year.
This will include details of the recently published Department of Health Guidance to support Local Authorities and their partners to deliver effective health scrutiny. Additional documents: Minutes: Discussion:
The Democratic Services Officer gave a brief introduction to the work programme report and stated that the long awaited Health Scrutiny guidance had now been received and sent to the Committee. Further to that guidance there would be health scrutiny training arranged later in the year.
She pointed out that the report on supported living had moved on the forward plan and was going to be coming to this Committee now at the 11 December 2014 meeting. A special Health and Wellbeing Board would be held on 9 September 2014 for one item of business, the Better Care Fund.
Decision:
(a) The Committee noted that the following items would be brought to 30 September 2014 meeting:
· Gateway 4 report outsourcing of Linked Service Centres Nelson Court and Robert Bean Lodge · De-commissioning of health trainer service
(b) The Committee noted that the following items would be brought to 11 December 2014 meeting:
· Report on supported living · Gateway 3 contract award residential and nursing care for working age adults |