Agenda and minutes

Children and Young People Overview and Scrutiny Committee - Tuesday, 26 March 2013 6.30pm

Venue: Meeting Room 2 - Level 3, Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham ME4 4TR

Contact: Teri Reynolds, Democratic Services Officer 

Items
No. Item

946.

Record of meeting pdf icon PDF 69 KB

To approve the record of the meeting held on 15 January 2013.

Minutes:

The record of the meeting held on 15 January 2013 was agreed and signed by the Chairman as correct. 

947.

Apologies for absence

To receive apologies for absence.  

Minutes:

Apologies of absence were received from Councillors Clarke, Craven and Tolhurst and Shirley Griffiths (LINk representative). 

948.

Urgent matters by reason of special circumstances

The Chairman will announce any late items which do not appear on the main agenda but which he/she has agreed should be considered by reason of special circumstances to be specified in the report. 

Minutes:

There were none. 

949.

Declarations of disclosable pecuniary interests

A member need only disclose at any meeting the existence of a disclosable pecuniary interest (DPI) in a matter to be considered at that meeting if that DPI has not been entered on the disclosable pecuniary interests register maintained by the Monitoring Officer.

 

A member disclosing a DPI at a meeting must thereafter notify the Monitoring Officer in writing of that interest within 28 days from the date of disclosure at the meeting.

 

A member may not participate in a discussion of or vote on any matter in which he or she has a DPI (both those already registered and those disclosed at the meeting) and must withdraw from the room during such discussion/vote.

 

Members may choose to voluntarily disclose a DPI at a meeting even if it is registered on the council’s register of disclosable pecuniary interests but there is no legal requirement to do so.

 

In line with the training provided to members by the Monitoring Officer members will also need to consider bias and pre-determination in certain circumstances and whether they have a conflict of interest or should otherwise leave the room for Code reasons.

Minutes:

There were none. 

950.

Raising the age of participation in learning pdf icon PDF 340 KB

This report reviews progress in Medway towards meeting the duty on all young people to participate in education and training.  The report also sets out the framework for careers information, advice and guidance for young people in Medway and reviews the current situation.

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Chief Executive of Medway Youth Trust (MYT) introduced the report, outlining the policy context of raising the age of participation in learning.  From the summer of 2013 young people will be required to continue in education or training until the end of the academic year in which they turn 17.  From 2015 they will be required to continue until their 18th birthday. 

 

The Chief Executive of MYT explained that the strategy in preparing for and delivering the raising participation age (RPA) needed to be a whole system approach, requiring the local authority, contractors, schools, families, employers, post 16 providers and young people to understand and embrace what RPA means and the impact of it.  He also drew the committee’s attention to Medway’s performance in relation to 16-18 year olds participating in full-time learning, which was higher than the South East and England averages.

 

The Chief Executive of MYT then answered questions from Members, which related to: -

·        Variable provision of independent advice and guidance (IAG) in schools;

·        Best practice was shared via workshops led by the Department for Education which allowed learning nationally but he also undertook to contact those authorities whose performance was exceptional compared to others to learn any best practice from those areas specifically;

·        All schools have a legal duty to provide IAG;

·        The budget reduction of £290,000 from the Council’s contract with MYT would require a need to prioritise the most vulnerable young people and those furthest from engagement being targeted;

·        There was a commitment that no ward in Medway would exceed a level of 10% of young people not being in employment, education or training (NEET) by 2014 (currently three wards exceeded this figure);

·        Confirmation that partnership working to address RPA and reduce the number of NEETs in Medway was strong and an example of this being demonstrated was the success of the 100/100 apprenticeship scheme;

·        RPA Strategies were most successful in areas where they were owned and held account for at the most senior level in local authorities;

·        Undertook to provide the committee with data regarding NEETs in a gender and ethnic breakdown.

 

The Medway Youth Parliament (MYP) representative then provided the committee with an update on the work they had been doing in relation to careers advice, since it had been the topic of MYP’s 2011 conference.  She explained that there was some concern that IAG needed to be pitched right to ensure that the right doors were opened for young people, rather than them following a path that they may not have chosen.  There was also still some concern among MYP members regarding the ‘Your choice in Medway’ website, particularly around its lack of popularity with usage being recorded at 32% as most schools were still helping to fund the website and there was concern about the spend if it was a tool that was not effectively used.

 

In response the Chief Executive of MYT explained that the ‘Your choice in Medway’ website could look very different in the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 950.

951.

Portfolio Holder for Corporate Services in attendance pdf icon PDF 27 KB

The Portfolio Holder for Corporate Services will attend the meeting in order to be held to account for matters within his portfolio that fall within the remit of this committee. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

Councillor Mason attended the meeting to be held to account for the area of his portfolio that fell within the remit of this committee.  A number of Members asked questions and commented and the Portfolio Holder for Corporate Services responded with following: -

 

·          Vacancy of an Independent Reviewing Officer (IRO) – The Council was currently trying to recruit to the post but the vacancy had been advertised four times demonstrating the difficulty to recruit to this field due to its specialism. 

·          Participation of children and young people (CYP) in Child Protection Conferences (CPCs) – The inspectors of the recent Ofsted made some positive observations when observing child protection conferences (CPCs) but participation of CYP in these meetings did need to be improved.  The Portfolio Holder felt CYP should be able to be interviewed by IROs without their parents being present and the use of advocates were being introduced to support CYP at CPCs.

·          Relationship with the IRO service – The Portfolio Holder confirmed that he meets regularly with the IRO Service Manager who reports on the service, its performance and progress.  He emphasised that the team was highly qualified and added that, due to the sensitivities involved, he needed to maintain some distance from the service delivery. He added that the service had been removed from within the Children and Adults directorate to maintain a level of independence.

·          Identifying issues – IROs may have been better informed if CYP were able to speak without their parents being present. 

·          Support for staff and impact of the vacancy – Regular 1:1 meetings were provided for staff and they were able to pass on any concerns they had to management.

·          Use of volunteers – Volunteers were very important and could be used it they were assessed as appropriate to be involved.

·          Confidence in improvement – The Portfolio Holder confirmed he was confident improvements required by Ofsted would be achieved.  Good progress was being made and in addition the Council had begun to use a new system for recording data, which would help improvement further.

 

Decision:

 

The Portfolio Holder was thanked for his attendance.

952.

Portfolio Holder for Children's Social Care in attendance pdf icon PDF 34 KB

The Portfolio Holder for Children’s Social Care will attend the meeting in order to be held to account for matters within his portfolio that fall within the remit of this committee.  

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

Councillor Wildey attended the meeting to be held to account for the area of his portfolio that fell within the remit of this committee.  A number of Members asked questions and commented and the Portfolio Holder for Children’s Social Care responded with following: -

 

·          Improving the Corporate Parenting Group (CPG) – The Portfolio Holder explained that he had recently attended a conference which was attended by representations of south eastern Corporate Parenting Groups (CPGs) and some examples of best practice and differences of approach were shared.  Early discussions regarding improving the CPGs functionality were also taking place with the Portfolio Holder for Children’s Services (lead member).  He added that he would like to see each Member of CPG to have an area of responsibility.

·          Performance of the looked after children service – A forthcoming inspection of looked after children (LAC) was likely to be later this year and there was a lot of good work going on in the service and caseloads were still high but were reducing.  In addition, an appointment had been made to the Assistant Director, Children’s Social Care post and an interim was in place to cover the vacancy until the new appointed member of staff arrived.

·          Member support and leadership – The Portfolio Holder explained that comments in the Ofsted report were not negative about political leadership and he hoped that some continuity of senior staff would help improvements.  He added that officers had been supported and additional funding had been provided by Members.

·          Confidence in improvement – The Portfolio Holder expressed confidence in the team and policies in place to achieve a positive Ofsted outcome for the LAC inspection.

 

Decision:

 

The Portfolio Holder was thanked for his attendance. 

953.

Outcome of unannounced inspection of local authority arrangements for the protection of children pdf icon PDF 29 KB

An inspection of the local authority arrangements for the protection of children in Medway took place between 7 and 16 January 2013. The Ofsted report was published on 15 February 2013. This report provides a summary of the findings. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Director of Children and Adults introduced the report and acknowledged and shared the disappointment amongst Members with the inadequate judgement.  She explained that the authority had been previously inspected under a multi-agency framework and that this inspection had been under a single agency framework, as part of a one year transitional period.  The bar had been raised in between the two frameworks and many more authorities inspected under the new framework had been found as inadequate.  She added that the new framework focused on the journey of the child and improvements to service must have the same focus. The Director confirmed that the authority was now required to set up an Improvement Board, which would meet monthly.  An Independent Chair for the Improvement Board had been appointed and would oversee the work of the board and sub groups for the two year improvement period.

 

The Director of Children and Adults then answered questions from Members, which included: -

·        Confirmation of the membership of the Improvement Board, which would include: -

o       An Independent Chair of the Improvement Board

o       The Medway Safeguarding Children Board Independent Chair;

o       The Chief Executive

o       The Director of Children and Adults

o       The Portfolio Holder for Children Services (lead member)

o       The Portfolio Holder for Children’s Social Care

o       A senior representative from the Police

o       A senior representative from the Medway Clinical Commissioning Group

o       A senior representative from the NHS National Commissioning Board

o       A representative from schools

·        Confirmation that the new children and adult electronic management system would go live on 2 April 2013 and that all preparations were on track.  Transition of data from the current system would take place over the coming weekend.  The challenge was ensuring staff used the system correctly and input all data required to be able to make the most potential of one of its good features, data recording systems and added that staff that had used the system already were now advocates.

·        In relation to the level of re-referrals, the Director explained that some referrals did not meet the thresholds (Ofsted were clear that the threshold documents and supporting procedure documents were sound) and were therefore sent back to the referee.  However, that person/agency can then continue to be concerned and re-refer and this contributed to part of the higher rate of re-referrals.  Development of a triage service was therefore being considered to help signpost such cases and work needed to be done to help the understanding of what multi-agency threshold means.

 

Decision:

 

The Committee noted the report. 

954.

Quarter 3 Council Plan Monitoring pdf icon PDF 525 KB

This report sets performance against the Council’s Key Measures of Success for the third quarter of 2012/13. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Performance, Intelligence and Strategic Manager introduced the report, drawing Members attention to the outcome of the Citizens’ Panel and some specific projects that have supported the Council’s priority, “children and young people having the best start in life”.

 

Officers then answered Members questions, which included: -

·        Concern with regard to the impact welfare reform would have on the reliance of bed and breakfast accommodation and that this was something that would need to be monitored;

·        Acknowledgement of the increased attendance figures at Sure Start Children Centres in Medway and successes of Key Stage 1 results;

·        Concern with regard to attendance of governors at training although there was awareness that Governors can ask for more in-school training;

·        Suggestion that reflection of the recent Ofsted inspection in the performance indicators should be included within the Council Plan.

 

In relation to Governor training the Medway Governors Association (MGA) representative explained that the MGA do promote and encourage attendance but in-school training can often be more favourable for some Governors.  There was a closer relationship with the Council’s governor services and the MGA and it was hoped that there would soon be an increase in attendance.

 

In relation to the inclusion of performance indicators (PIs) in the Council Plan in relation to the recent Ofsted the Performance, Intelligence and Strategic Manager explained that he was the manager of a new team established within the Children and Adult directorate and that a number of things were being done around this, including improved benchmarking.  In addition, the Council Plan 2013-14 was to have a more balanced approach to PIs so that they were more measurable and meaningful, rather then simply measuring timeliness for example. 

 

Decision:

 

The committee noted the report. 

955.

Work programme pdf icon PDF 33 KB

This report sets out the proposed work programme previously agreed by the Committee for 2012/13. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Democratic Services Officer introduced the report and in response to queries confirmed that an update against improvements following the recent Ofsted inspection and provisional and test examination results, including an update on the Key Stage Two task group actions would be reported to the September meeting of the committee.

 

In response to a question about the closure of Preston Skreens and the review of overnight short breaks the Director of Children and Adults confirmed that the formal consultation was now open and undertook to circulate the document to the committee.  The Democratic Services Officer undertook to programme consideration of this in to the work programme.

 

Decision:

 

The committee noted the additions to the work programme as detailed in the report and requested officers to circulate the consultation on the review of overnight short breaks and programme consideration of this at a future meeting of the committee.