Agenda and minutes

Children and Young People Overview and Scrutiny Committee - Tuesday, 11 December 2012 6.30pm

Venue: Meeting Room 2 - Level 3, Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham ME4 4TR

Contact: Teri Reynolds, Democratic Services Officer 

Items
No. Item

630.

Record of meeting pdf icon PDF 50 KB

To approve the record of the meeting held on 27 September 2012.

Minutes:

The record of the meeting held on 27 September 2012 was agreed and signed by the Chairman. 

631.

Apologies for absence

To receive apologies for absence. 

Minutes:

There were none. 

632.

Urgent matters by reason of special circumstances

The Chairman will announce any late items which do not appear on the main agenda but which he/she has agreed should be considered by reason of special circumstances to be specified in the report. 

Minutes:

The Chairman welcomed Samantha Collins as parent governor representative to her first meeting and Perdita Blinkhorn (substitute for Medway Youth Parliament) who was attending to observe her first meeting of the Committee.

633.

Declarations of disclosable pecuniary interests

A member need only disclose at any meeting the existence of a disclosable pecuniary interest (DPI) in a matter to be considered at that meeting if that DPI has not been entered on the disclosable pecuniary interests register maintained by the Monitoring Officer.

 

A member disclosing a DPI at a meeting must thereafter notify the Monitoring Officer in writing of that interest within 28 days from the date of disclosure at the meeting.

 

A member may not participate in a discussion of or vote on any matter in which he or she has a DPI (both those already registered and those disclosed at the meeting) and must withdraw from the room during such discussion/vote.

 

Members may choose to voluntarily disclose a DPI at a meeting even if it is registered on the council’s register of disclosable pecuniary interests but there is no legal requirement to do so.

 

In line with the training provided to members by the Monitoring Officer members will also need to consider bias and pre-determination in certain circumstances and whether they have a conflict of interest or should otherwise leave the room for Code reasons.

Minutes:

There were none. 

634.

Sherwin Knight Infant and Junior Schools - Outcome of Consultation on Proposed Amalgamation pdf icon PDF 944 KB

This report outlines the outcomes of the initial consultation period on the council’s proposals to amalgamate Sherwin Knight Infant School with Sherwin Knight Junior School by way of prescribed alterations. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Performance Intelligence and Strategic Planning Manager gave a brief introduction to the report on the outcomes of the consultation for the proposed amalgamation of Sherwin Knight Infant and Junior Schools.

 

He stated that the public consultation meeting had been well attended with representatives present from the two schools, parents, staff and governors.  

Only 8 written responses had been received to the consultation, 6 in favour and 2 objecting.  

 

Reference was made to the importance of elected Members being able to listen to the views put forward at the public meeting and the view was expressed that the suggested amalgamation would be welcome and the hope was that it would have the added benefit of improving school results at Key Stage 2.

 

Decision: 

 

The Committee recommended the amalgamation of Sherwin Knight Infant and Junior Schools to Cabinet.

635.

Swingate Infant and Spinnens Acre Junior Schools - Outcome of Consultation on Proposed Amalgamation pdf icon PDF 2 MB

This report outlines the outcomes of the initial consultation period on the council’s proposals to amalgamate Swingate Infant School with Spinnens Acre Junior School by way of prescribed alterations. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Performance Intelligence and Strategic Planning Manager gave a brief introduction to the report on outcomes of consultation on the proposed amalgamation of Swingate Infant School and Spinnens Acre Junior School.

 

He referred to the public consultation meeting, which had taken place on 11 October 2012.  He stated that the meeting had not been well attended but in contrast a larger number of written responses had been received.  46 had been received and all but one of these had been supportive of the amalgamation.

 

Reference was made to the fact that there had been a meeting relating to autism at the school on the evening of the consultation meeting.  The Performance Intelligence and Strategic Planning Manager stated that the date and time for the consultation had been agreed with the school.

 

Decision:

 

 The Committee recommended the amalgamation of Swingate Infant School and Spinnens Acre Junior School to Cabinet.

636.

Youth Justice Plan (Policy Framework) pdf icon PDF 583 KB

This report outlines the Medway Youth Justice Plan 2012-2014, which has been developed following discussions and consultations with partner agencies, and also reflects the requirements of the Youth Offending Team (YOT) Improvement Plan. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Youth Offending Team Manager introduced the report on the Youth Justice Plan, which he stated had been shared with partner agencies, and built on the success of the previous year.

 

He stated that the Management Board had set the targets for the service and all had been met bar one.  The team had been able to reduce reoffending by 35%.  He explained that there had been recent changes to the remand legislation in respect of young people which would mean an increase in the number of looked after young people known to the Youth Offending Team (YOT) as all remanded young people would gain Looked After Children (LAC) status.

 

He informed the Committee that the numbers of YOT clients in training or employment during one quarter of the year had been 100%, which was due to very effective partnership working.  This also accounted for good results in the numbers of YOT clients in suitable accommodation.

 

The Youth Offending Team Manager was congratulated on the work of the Youth Offending Team and particular reference was made to some alley clearing work undertaken in Watling ward and the positive support given to the young people involved by their Support Worker, which he undertook to feed back.

 

In response to a number of questions he commented as follows:

 

  • In response to a question relating to the employment figures set out on page 83 of the report the Youth Offending Team Manager undertook to report back with a more detailed explanation about the unemployment rates percentages.  He did confirm that the statement in the final paragraph was correct, that 81% of YOT clients over the school leaving age were at the end of their order in Education, Employment or Training.

 

  • With regards to page 95 of the report he stated that work was ongoing to encourage young people who have finished their community work to continue it on a voluntary basis.  This had achieved some success particularly around young people continuing to work in charity shops.

 

  • In relation to page 85 of the report he under took to report back to Councillor Mackness further details about the youth crime in River ward but stated that the high incidence of youth crime there may be connected with the proximity to the High Street.  He stated that he would raise the matter at the Community Safety Partnership initially to see if there were particular trends in relation to that area.

 

  • Reference was made to the excellent work being undertaken at Cookham Wood Young Offenders Institute and while the work was costly it was effective and he hoped it could be used as a model for other institutions in the country.

 

  • Emphasis was placed by Members of the Committee on officers making early contact with the Kent and Medway Police and Crime Commissioner to grow the share of finance received for work with young offenders in Medway based on the successes already achieved.  Members requested details to be shared with them of the amount of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 636.

637.

Capital and Revenue Budgets 2013/2014 pdf icon PDF 94 KB

This report presents the Council’s draft revenue budget for 2013/2014.  In accordance with the constitution, Cabinet is required to develop ‘initial budget proposals’ approximately three months before finalising the budget and setting council tax levels at the end of February 2013.

 

The draft budget is based on the principles contained in the Medium Term Financial Plan (MTFP) 2013/2016 approved by Cabinet in October and reflects the formula grant assumptions for 2013/2014 announced as part of the consultation on the Resource Review this year. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Finance Manager for Children and Adult Services introduced the capital and revenue budget and responded to Members’ questions.

 

The Director of Children and Adults responded to a question about how the necessary savings could be achieved over the longer term, bearing in mind the forecast budget gap was predicted to rise to £24m by 2015/2016.  She stated that work was ongoing looking at ways of working more effectively and taking difficult decisions about what services were the most important and protecting those vital services for vulnerable children and adults.  Some of these discussions were with the Medway Clinical Commissioning Group to investigate areas where joint commissioning or integrated working could bring about savings.

 

Decision:

 

The report was noted.

638.

2012/2013 Council Plan Monitoring - Quarter 2 pdf icon PDF 496 KB

This report sets performance against the Council’s Key Measures of Success for the second quarter of 2012/13.

Minutes:

 Discussion:

 

The Assistant Director, Communications, Performance and Partnerships introduced the report on performance against the Council’s key measures of success for the second quarter of 2012/2013 and responded to Members’ questions.

 

In relation to C1 – children’s participation in child protection conferences she stated that work was ongoing on this target to ensure that the young person’s voice was heard in the most appropriate way.  

 

In relation to CISRS1 LAC participation in Reviews she also confirmed that there was no particular problem for those young people who were in residential units having their voice heard in reviews any more than for other Looked After Children. 

 

In relation to the Independent Domestic Violence Advisers, she stated that negotiations to develop a pan Kent framework were ongoing and she hoped officers would report to the Community Safety Partnership and to this Committee at a later stage.

 

She responded to questions on a number of topics as follows:

 

  • NI 117 16 to 18 year olds who are not in education, employment or training it was stated that this figure was higher than that shown in the report on Youth Offending as it covered all 16 to 18 year olds not just clients of the YOT;
  • NI 148 care leavers in education, employment or training – this related to a very small group of young people and Members questioned why targeted work could not be done with them in the same way as YOT clients;
  • Regarding the circulation of papers provided for the performance report which included lengthy performance tables on A3 paper, as this was provided for Members on several occasions: with the Cabinet agenda; in full for the Business Support Overview and Scrutiny Committee and then again in a shortened format for each of the other Overview and Scrutiny Committees, it was suggested that a pilot is undertaken where one set of papers is presented at Cabinet and Members keep them for subsequent meetings.   She also stated that, following a suggestion at Business Support Overview and Scrutiny Committee, she would be producing a business case for e-access to agenda papers;
  • LX5 working days lost due to sickness absence – it was stated that the selection of 8 days as a target flowed from the average per annum data and did not mean that the Council was encouraging staff to take sick leave.  In relation to return to work interviews she emphasised that these were challenging but supportive;

 

The Director of Children and Adults responded to a query with regard to the Medway Domestic Abuse pilot launched in 3 wards (River, Gillingham South and Luton and Wayfield) by stating that it was too early to assess the success.  A review would be undertaken in the New Year and it would need to be clear what outcomes were being achieved for what investment to make an evidence based decision on any future roll out.  Further details could be made available to this Committee by means of a briefing note.

 

She also referred to NI  ...  view the full minutes text for item 638.

639.

Ofsted Inspection of Medway's Fostering service pdf icon PDF 28 KB

This report provides an overview of the outcome of the inspection by Ofsted into Medway Council’s fostering service and the actions being implemented to address areas identified for improvement.

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Interim Service Manager introduced a report relating to the Ofsted inspection of Medway’s fostering service.  She explained that there would be a new Inspection Framework for Looked After Children and young people leaving care in April 2013. 

 

She then referred to the Ofsted inspection, which had taken place on 7 August 2012, the findings of which were published on 12 September 2012.  The overall judgement was that Medway’s fostering service was adequate although two of the judgements, outcomes for children and young people and safeguarding children and young people were judged to be good.  She stated that the requirements from Ofsted had changed which made the inspection more challenging.

 

With regards to a target for the coming year she stated that it was hoped that 30 households could be recruited across Medway but explained the difficulty in recruiting with so many independent agencies in the area.

 

Responses to questions are summarised as follows:

 

  • It was agreed that the action plan which should have accompanied the Committee report would be sent to the Committee and published on the website
  • Personal development plans for foster carers were in place and were not static documents
  • Work was being undertaken to encourage foster carers to arrange for their foster children to attend after school clubs and activities
  • The permanency panel referred to in the report had met twice
  • As far as recruitment of Members to the Foster Panel in addition to the Porfolio Holder for Children’s Social Care and it was stated that this would be checked with Democratic Services

 

A number of concerns were raised by Members of the Committee in relation to the drop in performance, which lead to the adequate rating by Ofsted.  Members expressed their disappointment at the position of the service.  The Director of Children and Adults stated that there had been some issues with regards to leadership of the service but that work was underway to recruit a number of staff in the directorate, including the area of fostering, and she hoped that a strong campaign to attract the right people to the Council. 

 

In response to a further question about how many children are placed in foster care outside of Medway, and whether in particular any children are placed in Margate, she stated that she would send a briefing note to Members on the topic.

 

Decision: 

 

(a)   The Committee thanked the Interim Service Manager for her report;

(b)   It was noted that there would be a briefing note with regards to details of the numbers of foster children placed outside of Medway, including in Margate;

(c)   The action plan referred to during the meeting should be circulated to all Members of the Committee;

(d)   Members welcomed the recruitment campaign being put together to appoint to vacant posts in the directorate.

640.

Work programme pdf icon PDF 44 KB

This report sets out the proposed work programme previously agreed by the Committee for 2012/13. 

Minutes:

Discussion:

 

The Chairman referred to the invitation to all Members of the Committee to feed into him or the Democratic Services Officer ideas on topics for in-depth scrutiny for the following year by no later than 28 February 2013. 

 

The Democratic Services Officer reminded Members that on appendix 2 of the report there was a template, which needed to be used to assist with selecting a topic for in-depth review. 

 

She then pointed out that paragraph 6 of the report set out a proposal to move children’s health from this Committee to Health and Adult Social Care Overview and Scrutiny Committee.  She referred to the business of this Committee over the past two years, which reflected that children’s health had not been considered very often. 

 

Some Members felt that there were a number of topics which this Committee had not finished dealing with at this stage and they should remain with the Committee.  The Democratic Services Officer explained that this should not be a problem on the basis that any changes would need to be agreed at Annual Council, which was some months ahead.  This should allow the outstanding business to be concluded.

 

There was concern that the Committee did not have sufficient information on which to base a decision on the potential transfer and it was requested that this matter should be considered at the next meeting as a report containing all the implications of such a decision.

 

A request was made that an update on fostering should be considered in six months’ time and the Chairman agreed to discuss this at the next pre-agenda meeting.

 

Decision:

 

It was agreed that:

 

(a)   An update on fostering in six months’ time should be added to the work programme following discussion at the next pre-agenda meeting;

(b)   Briefing notes be provided at the end of each 2nd, 4th and 6th school term on the outcome of school Ofsted inspections and academy conversions;

(c)   A briefing note be provided to update the committee on the development of the health visiting service;

(d)   Members would notify the Chairman and opposition spokespersons of any potential topics for in-depth review by no later than 28 February 2013;

(e)   A report on the full implications of transferring children’s health from this Committee’s terms of reference to Health and Adult Social Care Overview and Scrutiny Committee should be added to the work programme for the next meeting.